Same shape, very different density. Both are cacao-and-mushroom morning drinks, but MUD\WTR is a lighter coffee replacement and Thunder Honey is a deeper, fully dosed stack made without added caffeine. Here is an honest breakdown to help you choose.
A denser daily ritual: functional cacao plus adaptogens plus a nootropic layer in a 12g scoop. A direct response to the category MUD\WTR built, with the doses pushed higher, the caffeine removed and every milligram on the pouch.
MUD\WTR :rise built the cacao-and-mushrooms category in the US: a masala-chai mushroom coffee alternative in a 6g scoop. A well-made, pleasant, lighter formula designed as a coffee replacement.
No added caffeine. The lift comes from Cordyceps, Rhodiola, raw cacao theobromine and L-Theanine, plus NR for cellular energy. Built for the customer who wants a morning lift made without added caffeine at all.
About 35mg of caffeine per serving from masala chai, roughly a third of a cup of coffee. Marketed as "1/7 the caffeine of coffee", a real and useful framing for the coffee-drinker cutting back.
Three daytime mushrooms at 1000mg dual-extract each (Cordyceps, Lion's Mane 5:1 + 10:1, Chaga), plus NR 300mg, CDP-Choline 250mg, L-Theanine 200mg, Rhodiola 200mg, 3000mg collagen and MCT, all printed on the front. Eurofins-tested every batch.
One of the more honest labels in the category: four mushrooms (Lion's Mane, Cordyceps, Chaga, Reishi) each printed at 560mg. That transparency is real and welcome, but the per-species dose sits at the lower-clinical end, roughly half the full 1,000mg gram Thunder Honey uses per mushroom. It is USDA organic certified.
Denser and more cacao-forward, like a rich homemade hot chocolate with stronger adaptogenic notes. 4000mg of raw cacao per scoop.
Mellower and gentler on the palate, cacao with masala chai spice. If you want something closer to a light hot chocolate, :rise fits that well.
From 489 SEK/mo on the 3-month plan (≈16 SEK/morning, about $1.60/serving), free glass bottle + scooper, free shipping, cancel anytime.
Roughly $34/month on subscription (about $1.14/serving), or ~$51 one-time per tin. The denser TH formula carries a higher per-serving price; :rise is the cheaper, lighter scoop. 30-day returns.
If you want the original cacao-and-mushrooms ritual, a gentler taste, a small caffeine kick and four transparent 560mg mushroom doses under $1.20 a serving, MUD\WTR is a great choice. If you want the full twelve-active stack at upper-clinical mushroom doses, a real nootropic layer, collagen and MCT, and naturally low caffeine, Thunder Honey is built for exactly that.